{"id":603,"date":"2021-05-02T19:29:23","date_gmt":"2021-05-02T22:29:23","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/x-enapol.org\/pt\/?p=603"},"modified":"2021-05-02T19:29:23","modified_gmt":"2021-05-02T22:29:23","slug":"correspondencia-6","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/enapol.com\/xpt\/correspondencia-6\/","title":{"rendered":"Correspond\u00eancia 6"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>[fusion_builder_container type=\u00bbflex\u00bb hundred_percent=\u00bbno\u00bb hundred_percent_height=\u00bbno\u00bb min_height=\u00bb\u00bb hundred_percent_height_scroll=\u00bbno\u00bb align_content=\u00bbstretch\u00bb flex_align_items=\u00bbflex-start\u00bb flex_justify_content=\u00bbflex-start\u00bb flex_column_spacing=\u00bb\u00bb hundred_percent_height_center_content=\u00bbyes\u00bb equal_height_columns=\u00bbno\u00bb container_tag=\u00bbdiv\u00bb menu_anchor=\u00bb\u00bb hide_on_mobile=\u00bbsmall-visibility,medium-visibility,large-visibility\u00bb status=\u00bbpublished\u00bb publish_date=\u00bb\u00bb class=\u00bb\u00bb id=\u00bb\u00bb link_color=\u00bb\u00bb link_hover_color=\u00bb\u00bb border_sizes=\u00bb\u00bb border_sizes_top=\u00bb\u00bb border_sizes_right=\u00bb\u00bb border_sizes_bottom=\u00bb\u00bb border_sizes_left=\u00bb\u00bb border_color=\u00bb\u00bb border_style=\u00bbsolid\u00bb spacing_medium=\u00bb\u00bb margin_top_medium=\u00bb\u00bb margin_bottom_medium=\u00bb\u00bb spacing_small=\u00bb\u00bb margin_top_small=\u00bb\u00bb margin_bottom_small=\u00bb\u00bb margin_top=\u00bb\u00bb margin_bottom=\u00bb\u00bb padding_dimensions_medium=\u00bb\u00bb padding_top_medium=\u00bb\u00bb padding_right_medium=\u00bb\u00bb padding_bottom_medium=\u00bb\u00bb padding_left_medium=\u00bb\u00bb padding_dimensions_small=\u00bb\u00bb padding_top_small=\u00bb\u00bb padding_right_small=\u00bb\u00bb padding_bottom_small=\u00bb\u00bb padding_left_small=\u00bb\u00bb padding_top=\u00bb\u00bb padding_right=\u00bb\u00bb padding_bottom=\u00bb\u00bb padding_left=\u00bb\u00bb box_shadow=\u00bbno\u00bb box_shadow_vertical=\u00bb\u00bb box_shadow_horizontal=\u00bb\u00bb box_shadow_blur=\u00bb0&#8243; 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backgroundcolor=\u00bb#2a2a38&#8243; textcolor=\u00bb#ffffff\u00bb random=\u00bb\u00bb hide_on_mobile=\u00bbsmall-visibility,medium-visibility,large-visibility\u00bb class=\u00bb\u00bb id=\u00bb\u00bb][fusion_testimonial name=\u00bbMarina Recalde\u00bb avatar=\u00bbfemale\u00bb image=\u00bb\u00bb image_id=\u00bb\u00bb image_border_radius=\u00bb\u00bb company=\u00bb\u00bb link=\u00bb\u00bb target=\u00bb_self\u00bb]<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: right;\">Buenos Aires, 15 de janeiro de 2021<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">\u00a0<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Querida Leticia,<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">J\u00e1 faz uns anos, no contexto de uma abertura do ICdeBA, comentei um interc\u00e2mbio epistolar entre Freud e Martha, sua prometida naquele momento, onde ela lhe manifestava sua preocupa\u00e7\u00e3o com rela\u00e7\u00e3o ao \u201ctrope\u00e7o transferencial\u201d entre Anna O. e Breuer. Ela temia que acontecesse o mesmo com Freud. Com um inesquec\u00edvel \u201cMeu adorado anjo\u201d, Freud tenta tranquiliz\u00e1-la dizendo que isso n\u00e3o ocorreria com ele, posto que para que isso ocorresse, ela deveria ser a esposa de Breuer. Entretanto, Martha captara muito bem que n\u00e3o se tratava da pessoa em jogo, mas sim da instala\u00e7\u00e3o do Sujeito suposto Saber que, inevitavelmente, suscita o amor.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Nesta ocasi\u00e3o, trouxe a cita\u00e7\u00e3o da frase de Lacan no Semin\u00e1rio 20 onde ele diz que \u201c\u00e0quele a quem suponho o saber, o amo\u201d. Ou seja, primeiro o saber, em seguida o amor. Nessa ocasi\u00e3o, Leonardo Gorostiza introduziu uma refer\u00eancia que at\u00e9 hoje ressoa para mim: \u201cJacques-Alain Miller em \u2018Uma fantasia\u2019 afirma que a partir do discurso hipermoderno, a quest\u00e3o se inverte e \u00e9 necess\u00e1rio primeiro o amor (para que os elementos disjuntos da civiliza\u00e7\u00e3o se ordenem) para, a partir da\u00ed, constituir o SsS.\u201d O impacto \u00e9, precisamente, a prop\u00f3sito do que ocorre na hipermodernidade (onde Miller se pergunta sobre o estatuto do discurso do analista, ou seja, qual discurso seria seu avesso) quando formula essa frase e indica que, o que faz existir o inconsciente como saber, \u00e9 o amor. Recorre tamb\u00e9m ao Semin\u00e1rio 20, onde \u201co amor \u00e9 o que pode fazer media\u00e7\u00e3o entre os Uns sozinhos.\u201d Ou seja, o amor \u00e9 anterior<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">\u00e0 suposi\u00e7\u00e3o de saber. Como pensar essas duas quest\u00f5es?<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Feliz de come\u00e7ar esse interc\u00e2mbio, te mando um abra\u00e7o.<\/p>\n<p>[\/fusion_testimonial][\/fusion_testimonials][fusion_separator style_type=\u00bbnone\u00bb hide_on_mobile=\u00bbsmall-visibility,medium-visibility,large-visibility\u00bb sticky_display=\u00bbnormal,sticky\u00bb class=\u00bb\u00bb id=\u00bb\u00bb flex_grow=\u00bb0&#8243; top_margin=\u00bb20&#8243; bottom_margin=\u00bb20&#8243; width=\u00bb\u00bb alignment=\u00bbcenter\u00bb border_size=\u00bb\u00bb sep_color=\u00bb\u00bb icon=\u00bb\u00bb icon_size=\u00bb\u00bb icon_color=\u00bb\u00bb icon_circle=\u00bb\u00bb icon_circle_color=\u00bb\u00bb \/][fusion_testimonials design=\u00bbclassic\u00bb navigation=\u00bbno\u00bb speed=\u00bb0&#8243; backgroundcolor=\u00bb#2a2a38&#8243; textcolor=\u00bb#ffffff\u00bb random=\u00bb\u00bb hide_on_mobile=\u00bbsmall-visibility,medium-visibility,large-visibility\u00bb class=\u00bb\u00bb id=\u00bb\u00bb][fusion_testimonial name=\u00bbLeticia Varga\u00bb avatar=\u00bbmale\u00bb image=\u00bb\u00bb image_id=\u00bb\u00bb image_border_radius=\u00bb\u00bb company=\u00bb\u00bb link=\u00bb\u00bb target=\u00bb_self\u00bb]<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: right;\">Buenos Aires, 20 de janeiro de 2021<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Querida Marina,<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Agrade\u00e7o sua carta que me permite entrar na problem\u00e1tica do amor nos tempos atuais. Podemos pensar juntas: h\u00e1 dificuldades para estabelecer um la\u00e7o amoroso, assim como um la\u00e7o orientado pelo saber.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Gabriel Racki no Argumento do X ENAPOL sublinha uma cita\u00e7\u00e3o de Lacan: toda ordem, todo discurso que se associa ao capitalismo deixa de lado o que chamamos, simplesmente, de coisas do amor.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Voltei a ler o texto de J-A Miller \u201cUma fantasia\u201d e ali se desenha o que logo ele distinguir\u00e1 entre inconsciente transferencial e inconsciente real.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Como voc\u00ea assinalava, os elementos do discurso hipermoderno se apresentam disjuntos e a quest\u00e3o se inverte: o amor \u00e9 necess\u00e1rio para que eles se ordenem e ent\u00e3o, em seguida, se constitua o Sujeito suposto Saber. \u00c9 o amor que permitir\u00e1, ent\u00e3o, que se instale o saber em um segundo momento l\u00f3gico.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Mas, ao mesmo tempo, J-A Miller assinala a ascens\u00e3o do objeto <em>a<\/em> ao z\u00eanite da civiliza\u00e7\u00e3o. Ou seja, n\u00e3o nos esque\u00e7amos do gozo! A partir da sua perspectiva, o amor e o saber ficam na categoria de semblantes. Seguimos conversando.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Com carinho,<\/p>\n<p>[\/fusion_testimonial][\/fusion_testimonials][fusion_separator style_type=\u00bbnone\u00bb hide_on_mobile=\u00bbsmall-visibility,medium-visibility,large-visibility\u00bb sticky_display=\u00bbnormal,sticky\u00bb class=\u00bb\u00bb id=\u00bb\u00bb flex_grow=\u00bb0&#8243; top_margin=\u00bb20&#8243; bottom_margin=\u00bb20&#8243; width=\u00bb\u00bb alignment=\u00bbcenter\u00bb border_size=\u00bb\u00bb sep_color=\u00bb\u00bb icon=\u00bb\u00bb icon_size=\u00bb\u00bb icon_color=\u00bb\u00bb icon_circle=\u00bb\u00bb icon_circle_color=\u00bb\u00bb \/][fusion_testimonials design=\u00bbclassic\u00bb navigation=\u00bbno\u00bb speed=\u00bb0&#8243; backgroundcolor=\u00bb#2a2a38&#8243; textcolor=\u00bb#ffffff\u00bb random=\u00bb\u00bb hide_on_mobile=\u00bbsmall-visibility,medium-visibility,large-visibility\u00bb class=\u00bb\u00bb id=\u00bb\u00bb][fusion_testimonial name=\u00bbMarina Recalde\u00bb avatar=\u00bbfemale\u00bb image=\u00bb\u00bb image_id=\u00bb\u00bb image_border_radius=\u00bb\u00bb company=\u00bb\u00bb link=\u00bb\u00bb target=\u00bb_self\u00bb]<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: right;\">Buenos Aires, 25 de janeiro de 2021,<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">\u00a0<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Querida Leticia,<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">\u00c9 muito importante isso que voc\u00ea assinala do amor e do saber como semblantes, articulados ao gozo. Justamente isso nos permitir\u00e1 abordar esses pontos que me parecem cruciais em um tempo em que a cl\u00ednica nos mostra dificuldades precisamente em estabelecer um la\u00e7o amoroso. E isso influencia, sem d\u00favida, o la\u00e7o transferencial. O que daria raz\u00e3o para levantar uma infinidade de quest\u00f5es. Uma delas me preocupa especialmente: \u00e9 a que diz respeito \u00e0 pr\u00e1tica. Como pensar nossa pr\u00e1tica hoje, nesse mundo definido por J-A Miller como o dos \u201cUns sozinhos\u201d?<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Um abra\u00e7o,<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Marina<\/p>\n<p>[\/fusion_testimonial][\/fusion_testimonials][fusion_separator style_type=\u00bbnone\u00bb hide_on_mobile=\u00bbsmall-visibility,medium-visibility,large-visibility\u00bb sticky_display=\u00bbnormal,sticky\u00bb class=\u00bb\u00bb id=\u00bb\u00bb flex_grow=\u00bb0&#8243; top_margin=\u00bb20&#8243; bottom_margin=\u00bb20&#8243; width=\u00bb\u00bb alignment=\u00bbcenter\u00bb border_size=\u00bb\u00bb sep_color=\u00bb\u00bb icon=\u00bb\u00bb icon_size=\u00bb\u00bb icon_color=\u00bb\u00bb icon_circle=\u00bb\u00bb icon_circle_color=\u00bb\u00bb \/][fusion_testimonials design=\u00bbclassic\u00bb navigation=\u00bbno\u00bb speed=\u00bb0&#8243; backgroundcolor=\u00bb#2a2a38&#8243; textcolor=\u00bb#ffffff\u00bb random=\u00bb\u00bb hide_on_mobile=\u00bbsmall-visibility,medium-visibility,large-visibility\u00bb class=\u00bb\u00bb id=\u00bb\u00bb][fusion_testimonial name=\u00bbLeticia Varga\u00bb avatar=\u00bbmale\u00bb image=\u00bb\u00bb image_id=\u00bb\u00bb image_border_radius=\u00bb\u00bb company=\u00bb\u00bb link=\u00bb\u00bb target=\u00bb_self\u00bb]<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: right;\">Buenos Aires, 5 de fevereiro de 2021<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">\u00a0<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Querida Marina,<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Retomando nosso interc\u00e2mbio, compartilho sua preocupa\u00e7\u00e3o sobre as dificuldades do la\u00e7o amoroso no momento atual, ao que acrescentaria a amplifica\u00e7\u00e3o das preocupa\u00e7\u00f5es devido \u00e0 pandemia.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Em alguns casos, penso ser o amor e, em outros, o saber, o que permitir\u00e1 que se instale o trabalho anal\u00edtico mas a diferen\u00e7a entre os inconscientes nos dar\u00e1 a pista para que os psicanalistas estejam advertidos.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">O inconsciente transferencial, tamb\u00e9m chamado de freudiano, fica localizado do lado do amor ao saber, ao passo que o inconsciente real nomeia o disruptivo dos S1 \u2013 cifras de gozo que comandam cada um. Essa diferen\u00e7a entre os inconscientes nos empurra como analistas a n\u00e3o adormecermos com as significa\u00e7\u00f5es do amor, do saber. Embora sustentemos que \u00e9 o amor o que nos permitir\u00e1 interrogar, atrav\u00e9s da sua media\u00e7\u00e3o, a esse <em>falasser<\/em> constitu\u00eddo por S1 sozinhos, cifras de gozo; quando falamos da psican\u00e1lise como o discurso que promove \u201cum novo amor\u201d \u2013 um novo la\u00e7o \u2013 n\u00e3o destacamos ali que a orienta\u00e7\u00e3o pelo real deixa a marca do imposs\u00edvel atrav\u00e9s do <em>sinthoma<\/em> de cada Um? Talvez se trate da inven\u00e7\u00e3o de novos la\u00e7os sem perder a orienta\u00e7\u00e3o pelo real. Apostando em um \u201camor mais digno\u201d, aquele que d\u00ea lugar para o imposs\u00edvel.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Com afeto,<\/p>\n<p>[\/fusion_testimonial][\/fusion_testimonials][fusion_separator style_type=\u00bbnone\u00bb hide_on_mobile=\u00bbsmall-visibility,medium-visibility,large-visibility\u00bb sticky_display=\u00bbnormal,sticky\u00bb class=\u00bb\u00bb id=\u00bb\u00bb flex_grow=\u00bb0&#8243; top_margin=\u00bb10&#8243; bottom_margin=\u00bb10&#8243; width=\u00bb\u00bb alignment=\u00bbcenter\u00bb border_size=\u00bb\u00bb sep_color=\u00bb\u00bb icon=\u00bb\u00bb icon_size=\u00bb\u00bb icon_color=\u00bb\u00bb icon_circle=\u00bb\u00bb icon_circle_color=\u00bb\u00bb \/][fusion_text columns=\u00bb\u00bb column_min_width=\u00bb\u00bb column_spacing=\u00bb\u00bb rule_style=\u00bbdefault\u00bb rule_size=\u00bb\u00bb rule_color=\u00bb\u00bb content_alignment_medium=\u00bb\u00bb content_alignment_small=\u00bb\u00bb content_alignment=\u00bb\u00bb hide_on_mobile=\u00bbsmall-visibility,medium-visibility,large-visibility\u00bb sticky_display=\u00bbnormal,sticky\u00bb class=\u00bb\u00bb id=\u00bb\u00bb font_size=\u00bb\u00bb fusion_font_family_text_font=\u00bb\u00bb fusion_font_variant_text_font=\u00bb\u00bb line_height=\u00bb\u00bb letter_spacing=\u00bb\u00bb text_color=\u00bb\u00bb animation_type=\u00bb\u00bb animation_direction=\u00bbleft\u00bb animation_speed=\u00bb0.3&#8243; animation_offset=\u00bb\u00bb]<\/p>\n<p><strong>Tradu\u00e7\u00e3o:<\/strong> Bruna Guaran\u00e1<br \/><strong>Revis\u00e3o<\/strong>: Glacy Gonzales Gorski<\/p>\n<p>[\/fusion_text][\/fusion_builder_column][\/fusion_builder_row][\/fusion_builder_container]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>[fusion_builder_container type=\u00bbflex\u00bb hundred_percent=\u00bbno\u00bb hundred_percent_height=\u00bbno\u00bb min_height=\u00bb\u00bb hundred_percent_height_scroll=\u00bbno\u00bb align_content=\u00bbstretch\u00bb flex_align_items=\u00bbflex-start\u00bb flex_justify_content=\u00bbflex-start\u00bb flex_column_spacing=\u00bb\u00bb<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"footnotes":""},"categories":[9],"tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/enapol.com\/xpt\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/603"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/enapol.com\/xpt\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/enapol.com\/xpt\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/enapol.com\/xpt\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/enapol.com\/xpt\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=603"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/enapol.com\/xpt\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/603\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":604,"href":"https:\/\/enapol.com\/xpt\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/603\/revisions\/604"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/enapol.com\/xpt\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=603"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/enapol.com\/xpt\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=603"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/enapol.com\/xpt\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=603"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}